The truth about Megatokyo?
Hrm, so many people asking me for what really went on, what happened, or is happening. I think in most cases the real truth is always less interesting and exciting then the way people imagine it.
But for those interested, for the first time in about two years, I'm willing to discuss it in the following post.Megatokyo.com ...
Its a webcomic now sure, but originally it was just another domain I owned, in fact at one time it was hosting a blog of mine, a lot like this site here.
Back in the day, i was reading webcomics like most of you, Penny-Arcade and PvP would be the normal sites everyone would hit, and I thought "why not do one too?" .. I mean hey, the 'me too' attitude works for clothing designers, why not comics?
So, I sat down, and over the course of a week, had about the first 30 episodes of MegaTokyo written. Having gotten Fred to agree to be the artist, we proceeded to make an episode. I think that was likely going to be the only episode we'd ever have made had it not been for Scott Kurtz and Tycho linking our website at my request. Nice guys, then and now.
In fact, without Scott Kurtz and Tycho's links, MegaTokyo would not exist today.
Anyways, once the traffic started rolling in, it became popular, and in a couple months, it became a business. Months went by, work continued, and the strip became more popular as the business became profitable.
I guess this is where common knowledge would end, and the 'mystery' and rumors of our split would begin..
Utilmately, Fred and I have very different attitudes towards comic strip writing...
I don't like loose ends, story threads that never resolve themselves, or strips that on their own are neither funny nor understandable. There is nothing wrong with these things mind you, I just don't prefer them.
Basically, to me, the perfect balance in a strip is one that makes the reader laugh, and does not require six hours of archives reading to 'get' on some level.
Fred was a fan of Japanese manga, so he liked love triangles or.. tetrahedrons in certain cases. and likes the complicated long drawn out stories.
The two styles mixed for awhile, but over time, Fred wanted to go with his vision more, which diminished the influence I had over MegaTokyo. We used to touch on these two different visions for fans, we even did a strip called "The Other Brick" in which we tried to explain our differences.
Fred continued with his story lines and wanted to do most of the writing, Fred began to control more of MegaTokyo's direction, stories, and characters. Obviously some decisions were made that I was not happy about, this is natural given our different styles of writing and creation.
After this he approached me and said either I would sell him my ownership of MegaTokyo or he would simply stop doing it entirely, and we'd divide up the company's assets and end it all.
This was right before the MT was to go into print form, and I really wanted to see it make it into print, rather then die on the vine.
The site had really taken off, with the merchandise sales continuing to skyrocket each month. Now when a business reaches this point you can easily project future sales and revenue, and in the case of the book, it was going to be big.
So faced with some money for my work, or no money at all, I took the rational approach and agreed to sell MT to Fred.
and the rest, is pretty much history...
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Do I miss doing a regular comic with the readership I had?, Sure. it was fun coming up with ideas and strips and being able to see the reactions to my work.
But it's also nice when I walk into a bookstore and see a copy of MegaTokyo on the shelf with my name on it. It's nice to know I was able to take it that far, which for me, made it worth it.
Rodney "Largo" Caston
The truth about megatokyo...
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That was the past and this is the future, i dont see why ex-partners cant make another conjointed chapters of Megatokyo. YOu guyz can be like Desinty's Child (i think i spelled it wrong...) you can join for about a few months and break up again or you guyz can resolve your problems and make some compramises. (Man i cant spell....u_u)
Well, this is just my opinion.
Oh yeah, just putting this out here. Who ever goes to Six Flags at New Jersey, Ride Kingda Ka! That is the fastest and tallest coaster in t3h world!!!
---Laurenzee "Akuma Tenshi" Landicho
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Wow...
That's harsh, man. I guess we've all got out dark sides, but...wow...
I think that it says more about you that you can force a smile and gut through it than anything else. Freindly backstabbing is never fun, but only a friend can stab you in the back.
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Hey, people, you need to stop this shit. Honestly, this is complete bulslhit, you are bringing up shit that happened years ago now? Instead of posting shit from either side, you should be congratulating Largo on his baby!
Congrats on the baby man, good luck!
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Yes, I will continue to read MT because I am a big fan of the style. I am also a big fan of PvP, it is possible to like multiple genres of comics.
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Um, you are making it sound like Piro (Fred) was making a personal attack towards Rodney, and that is an obvious lie. It was okay on Largo (Rodney)'s part to say something, because yes, he was involved, and although this was under NDA (i am pertty sure of), they haven't given out any particular facts about the transaction itself, just the story behind it.
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Apprantly a lot of you don't have all the facts, hell even i don't have ALL the facts, but damnit i have a lot! first off, this should be a happy moment! RC is having a kid! It doesn't get any better! Secondly, RC didn't get "jipped," he got paid for the rights to MT, apparently a large sum that put Fred's finances in the red. His name is still put on the books as co-creator. And as much as it might have pained him to be officially cut from MT, Largo is still in it, isn't he? Fred could have had him killed! ( in MT.) Also, fred 'n RC still talk to each other, fer cryin' ou loud, they're not mortal enemies! They just had an adult disagreement, and made a legal split in the BUSINESS world, not where it counts. And if you don't like MT the way Fred is doing it, too bad. he works his ass off for that comic, puts his LIFE into it, and all you guys can do is curse his name? If you don't like it now, just read up until the split happened! Or better yet, don't read at all! No one is forcing you. Fred and Rodney are BOTH good guys, and just because they don't make the same webcomic anymore doesn't mean that we need tto hate one of them...
damn, that took a LONG time to say...
keep up t3h good work Rodney.
-karyyu
Inside observer
I had the dubious distinction of being in near-daily contact with both Rodney and Fred throughout the process of the split. I can say that Rodney's account of events is commendably objective and fair, especially considering his mindset at the time.
This is irrefutably true:
As Fred gained more and more power of authorship over the storyline and day-to-day comics, Rodney become more and more discontent with the direction the comic was taking; as Rodney become more and more discontent with the direction the comic was taking, he became less and less active in its day-to-day operation, causing Fred to become more and more discontent with Rodney's participation. Fred's frustration grew beyond what the situation merited and he decided it was necessary to take legal action. He did, in fact, give Rodney an ultimatum, stating that unless Rodney sold Fred his share of MegaTokyo, Fred would pull the plug on the comic. This was not an idle threat; rather, it took the form of legal notice. Rodney, after a little negotiation with Fred, agreed to terms, and left the comic.
Again, I know these things because they were told to me by both Fred and Rodney, and each even solicited my advice in various matters. They were both personal friends who spoke with me on the phone continually (and, in Rodney's case, in person), so anything contradictory you might have read on a forum or in an IRC chatroom is nonsense.
In my opinion, Rodney should have been more diligent in his duties to the comic, and Fred shouldn't have let the troubles of his personal life blow the situation out of proportion. Ultimately, I think Fred was rather heavy-handed, and I'm honestly surprised the situation ended as civilly as it did. I'm quite impressed to see Rodney recall what happened with such honesty and fairness. I know it was a very unpleasant time for him.
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perhaps, but that cash DID leave fred without excess. It was a big financial gamble.
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o.O finally someone else throwing in some common sense insteaed of mindless insults, awesome!
Re: Tell us about Iron Cat's near bankrupcy via Fred
I'm not here to gossip. I'm here to confirm the truth of what happened in this particular situation. Iron Cat, merekat, and all the other insider things will remain inside.
Re: Tell us about Iron Cat's near bankrupcy via Fred
merekat was the artist who provided the coloration for the first MT poster. As for your question, I have no comment to make.
Re: Tell us about Iron Cat's near bankrupcy via Fred
This needs to stop here, before anymore useless shit is started.
Re: Tell us about Iron Cat's near bankrupcy via Fred
there is a line between wanting to know little gossip and actually caring about facts. this is on the same level as preppy girls in highschool gossiping about "so and so" honestly, grow up people, if you honestly lack enough of a life to the point where you have to dive into others, that is extremely pathetic
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Thats fine, glad to know you have an opinion instead of a mindless crazy anti-whatever comic reader ha ha :D
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First off, Congrats on the w33 0n3. Got one myself, she is a beaut..
Also would like to state that the fun of MT went when it changed hands.. Nowadays it is like every other anime/manga.. mixed up person with alot of love interest but is to.. blah blah blah.. I like his art style, but again, seen it a million times...
And again, congrats on the wee one..
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HA HA, this is hilarious, its like a freaking battlefield of lonely computer geeks striving to fight for their "side", i mean, honestly people, how much can you care? i mean, i know i have much more going on in my life than to really care much about something that happened two years ago between two business partners, who did a "legal" business deal, so honestly, i am suprised this has gone from like 20 comments to like 100 in 5 hours.. o.O but oh well, i haven't exactly read through all of them, i am sure there is plenty of bashing of both rodney, kurtz, and fred (and maybe the occasional "your a fag") but wow, this needs to end now, and to all of you select few people who have hinted towards this complete inane topic, thank you for showing that humanity does have some decent people left out there, not just mindless hordes of random internet people waging their own little forum "war"
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yea, im sorry if largo selling the domain to piro causes so many people anger, but im siding whith Ub3rninj4 on this one
IT DOSENT MATTER
seriously, its a site, and its not like largos contrabutions on Mt arent gone, there is still 1 comic jokes u dont need to know the whole story to get. but it helps.
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So Fred DID steal it from you.
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THANKYOU. Finally some intelligent people with rational conversation skills.
Re: Largo & Piro are friends??? are you kidding me?
And I think you are just another yuppy computer loser with obviously not eough of a life to in order to stay out of theirs...
Re: The Megatokyo split: All about the benjamins
Rodney had long since left the comic by that point. I assume Fred was just figuring that if he was the only one working on the comic, it would be stupid for Rodney to get paid for something he was only tangentially connected to.
Is it a little lame? Well yeah, that's business. But still, it seems reasonable.
It is interesting to see that Fred has balls after all though. It certainly takes some to threaten to shut down Megatokyo as part of a legal negotiation.
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i think what yall worked all was a good thing that yall didnt resort to some of the stuff other people would over something like this
Contrads on the baby Ron
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This'll probably get lost in all the posts, but huge congratulations on the baby, Rodney, as well as to your wife. =) Take care. ^^
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Uh, you know, if you have read almost anything, you would have known that their working together had already been crumbling, and the comic became more and more just PIro, to a point where he didn't feel like splitting the pofits, its not as if Rodney was putting as much of his life into MT as Piro has been, Piro felt that he was a loose end, and removed it, thats all, so accusing Fred of stelling is inane.
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Uh, you know, if you have read almost anything, you would have known that their working together had already been crumbling, and the comic became more and more just PIro, to a point where he didn't feel like splitting the pofits, its not as if Rodney was putting as much of his life into MT as Piro has been, Piro felt that he was a loose end, and removed it, thats all, so accusing Fred of stealing is inane.
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It's interesting to hear about what happened from both sides.
I still love Megatokyo. Of course, I am a manga fan, so the current flavor is fine by me.
Nonethless, I must say that when Largo and Piro worked together the comic was at it's best. In some ways, they are like The Beatles. Lennon and McCartney were very different personalities and there was a wonderful balance found between them. Same way with Largo and Piro, IMO.
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Oh....the above anon post ("I can get you there...") was me. Forgot to log in. Hehe.
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jesus, you'd think people might let the subject die, it did happen something like 2 years ago, yeah? bah, people drugding on, not that i didnt like the megatokyo before, with the Rodney-writing, hell, it was a major insperation for a lot of my writing, but i dont think that it is now worse or that we should all call Fred mein fehrur, actualy, i like it now, its different from a lot of the more popular web-comics. and people, if Sir Caston is not sore about it, you shouldnt be ether, if you do like Rod-less MT, dont read it. and for the sake of all that is good in this world and the ears and eyes of all that know you, let it go, move on, be happy and hold no grudges. damnit!
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Hopefully you guys could come together for a reunion comic or something.....someday.
I'm an MT Fan still, but the ones w/ Largo still involved were pure pwnage.
I hate to say it, but Fred needs to leave manga to the good folks in Japan. They know what they're doing.........
later,
Agentferret
http://pwnzone.tk
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hmmm it seems like some bad things happend. but in the end it also appears like you acomplished something to be prowed of. since suff happens like this in bussniss all the time i am amazed by your abuility to say. it was worth it. Thats admirable.
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youre all going to hate me for this...
I was going to email this to "theartistformerlyknownaslargo" but this is better because people can see it.
I just can't for the life of me let sleeping dogs... whatever.
This is what the message contained(not, I sent one to fred too muahahaha!)
I sent a similar message to fred, crazy little 84s74|) that I am
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DOOD! That sucks! It was a cool comic...but without all the witty funny stuff..it's just another lovey dovey comic.....ya know? I liked MT because of...not just l33t...but because i cracked up on every page. Then...I saw something weird...the whole...love triangle....pentagonial...hexagonial thingie....I was like..."hey....this is as funny as it usually is!"
I always wanted to know if it wasjust a lying rumor that u two split up or if it was true....this really blows...I would have dropped him and tried to hire someone new...not saying it is easy or anything....but yeah...this still sucks...
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once reading this blog. i insist on u guys out there reading piro's part of the story. making it clear to all of u, who think u know everything there is to know about everything.
read piro's blog:
http://www.megatokyo.com/index.php?strip_id=660
as u can see, hes cool w/ largo.
and to the main bullet point of this, well to me, is tat without both of them here right now, actually making up the webcomic, there wouldn't be a megatokyo. even if u hate it or love it.
im not choosing sides, just accepting the facts.